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bduddy #Diana# 6/18/2018 7:50 AM
Everyone is different. Not all communication works like that.
7:50 AM
I say that as a host that did get communication like that. But many, a majority even, don't.
7:51 AM
If it wasn't you, it was her. Period. If you don't accept that you'll be stuck how you are forever.
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You'll feel which response is right.
7:51 AM
Because you have an image in your mind who your tulpa is, yeah?
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Basically what I was trying to say, yeah. I'm no good with words.
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Well, just pick that response that had you been looking at her, it would match.
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And don't forget, the most important factor of it all - Pet you're tulpa.
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:04 AM
And hug your tulpa
8:05 AM
and have sex with them
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Petting is statistically proven to be better than hugs. That statistics are myself.
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@Deleted User NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8:05 AM
don't lewd the tulpas
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studies have shown that that stuff tends to result in them living longer (technically the studies were performed on rabbits, but it still applies because I said so)
8:06 AM
petting and hugging that is, not lewding
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Don't mind Srn, he's a stalker that knows that I used to be a rabbit.
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I actually didn't know that, that legitimately was a study done on rabbits
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:07 AM
I thought rabbits live longest when they are left in peace.
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not at all, in fact their heart affects their immune system in such a way that they can literally die of loneliness
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Ah, I've heard about that. Good thing I outlived the loneliness.
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:08 AM
With other rabbits, not alone
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Regarding skepticism - skepticism is excellent. However, the largest problem is that "skepticism" is often interpreted to mean "Nothing is your tulpa unless it can be proved, undeniably, to be them."
8:12 AM
Skepticism is simply not assuming - be it assuming negatives (nothing is my tulpa unless it is clear beyond all doubt) or assuming positives (everything is my tulpa if there is any question of it not being me).
8:14 AM
In effect, don't assume one way or the other. If there is enough evidence that it leans largely towards one way or the other, then drawing the conclusion that evidence points is far more reasonable - but, responses with no clear leaning one way or the other can be accepted as "unknown". No need to force a label on something with no good reason.
8:15 AM
In the end, unless there is a genuine clear response, the best one can do is analyze it and try to come up with the relative probability of a response being from the tulpa or self-generated.
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 8:15 AM
I utterly agree with it.
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I think a good distinction here would be skepticism vs cynicism
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so, i have a quick question, what are possession and switching supposed to feel like from the hosts perspective?
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Possession is like having your body do things with you telling it to
1:05 PM
Switching is essentially detaching from the body entirely
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we're essentially trying to figure out where we lie with what we're able to do, currently it feels like a mild sense of dissociation. and with that a majority of the hosts train of thought is in the background, while my thoughts seem to take over with about the same sort of intensityy that his were once at. but we experience no abnormalities or sensations beyond that so far.
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Is your host able to exit the body like you can?
1:13 PM
If not, it isn't switching
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not to our understanding
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 1:18 PM
you don't have to feel it like exiting the body (edited)
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Alright, then what you are doing is cofronting, most likely
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suppose co-fronting would make sense at least, especiall with our tendency to get blendy after a while
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 1:35 PM
Hello! I'm looking for starter's guides! What are your recommendations?
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Kiahdaj's guide is what my host used
1:36 PM
Let me grab the link
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 1:36 PM
Thank you
1:36 PM
Are FAQ man's considered outdated?
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idk, I've never read that guide
1:38 PM
If you want a more recent guide
1:38 PM
Tulpas: Creation, Sentience, and Vocality By Piano Felight i. Foreword Purpose The purpose of this guide is to lay out advice, tips, and general instructions to new hosts for their endeavor to create their first sentient, vocal tulpa, in such a way that will be helpful to ...
1:38 PM
Haven't bothered reading it
1:38 PM
But the owner of Tulpa Tavern made it
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Some of the older guides are outdated, yes.
1:39 PM
Out of all the general guides I've read, I'd recommend Kiahdaj's.
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someone should get that giraffe man on Discord
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He left the community at the end of last year. I have him on Discord but I don't think that he has any interest in this place anymore.
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 1:42 PM
Does he still have tulpas?
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He wasn't very vocal about his tulpas but if I remember correctly his situation was a bit complicated. I don't know the specifics.
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 1:50 PM
nods.
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is there a reliable way to "block" certain memories from Tae so as not to spoil such things as tv and games for her?
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 3:09 PM
It's a shame, I liked him
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We should probably take that conversation to #lounge .
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Deleted User 6/18/2018 3:12 PM
You can imagine the tulpa not remembering something you remember. I don't know if it's a good idea if you want her to be independent of constraints you impose on her.
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bduddy #Diana# 6/18/2018 5:13 PM
@Wyvern sort of, yeah. I've been trying to do the same thing. Probably some symbolism is the best bet, and focusing on making it work from both of you.
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So I just started to make my Tulpa and I'm having trouble forcing. Every time I try it my brain keeps getting off topic and stopping me from focusing. Is there any way I can get better at focusing?
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i listen to calm music to keep my mind in check
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/18/2018 8:11 PM
I clear my mind before I start anything
8:12 PM
Suppress all conscious trains of thought until my mind is clear, then start the one or two I intend to focus on
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Learning to meditate is not a bad method of doing this.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/18/2018 8:19 PM
The clearing of the mind is quite helpful
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I'll see if I can find any good meditation guides.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/18/2018 8:20 PM
I have a good one... although it comes with... other stuff as well
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That's alright. I'd like to get as much info as I can.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/18/2018 8:21 PM
By "other stuff" I mean metaphysics-type stuff
8:21 PM
Anyways, I'll go grab the link
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metaphysics?
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/18/2018 8:21 PM
The book itself is a book on learning magic
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Magic.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/18/2018 8:21 PM
But its meditation chapter is quite solid
8:22 PM
The two pages open here are the ones you'll want, minus the Trances part, although those can be helpful as well if you're trying to create mindscapes and such: https://archive.org/stream/LiberNullAndThePsychonaut/LiberNull#page/n13/mode/2up (edited)
8:23 PM
Not-Thinking is specifically the mind-clearing bit
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bduddy #Diana# 6/18/2018 9:11 PM
I dunno about that book, but yeah, basic meditation works. So does practice.
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Ruethus the Silver Sorceror 6/18/2018 9:12 PM
Like I said, much of the book isn't for most people, but the meditation part works fairly well
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bah beginner question, is it possible to create a tulpa without/hardly ever active forcing?
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Yes... but it will certainly take much longer than if you were actively forcing.
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okay, whatas a good amount to active force a dayh
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As much as possible.
1:45 AM
There isn't a specific amount. It depends on your own life situation and how much time you can even spare in the first place.
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dumb question but, what do you do during active forcing
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The difference between active and passive forcing is a matter of focus. In both cases, you talk to and interact with the tulpa. However, typically with passive forcing, interaction with the tulpa is an afterthought or otherwise secondary to whatever you are doing.
1:47 AM
With active forcing, you interact directly with the tulpa as the primary focus.
1:48 AM
You could, say... talk to them, read a book to them, interact with them by visualizing them (be it set in the physical space around you or in a daydream - the "wonderland")... any direct focused interaction.
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so active forcing doesnt have to be
1:49 AM
3 hrs of meditation
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so is narrating to tulpa while doing work passive or active
1:51 AM
as its not an afterthought?
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It could be either. Are you focusing primarily on your work or the tulpa?
1:53 AM
The former would make it passive forcing. The latter would make it active forcing.
1:54 AM
To be clear - if you have work or other responsibilities in reality that need to be done, take care of them first. Please do not let making a tulpa be a reason to neglect other people in real life.
1:54 AM
Active forcing is good and helps development more, but the point is not to develop a tulpa and disrupt your life while doing so - nor is the goal to make a tulpa as fast as possible.
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the thing is work is just mindlessly entering data
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